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		<title>Comment on Fiore, 5 Feb. 2012 by Neal</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/02/fiore-5-feb-2012/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it seems to me that when we move to spear, we are stepping outside of the somewhat controlled, one-on-one duel environment that tends to be assumed in swordplay, and into the world of crazy &quot;anything can happen&quot; battlefield survival. Which means that spear should probably be drilled not only against spear but against longsword, poleax, and what have you. Which would lead naturally to the kind of unified approach to movement that you are describing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it seems to me that when we move to spear, we are stepping outside of the somewhat controlled, one-on-one duel environment that tends to be assumed in swordplay, and into the world of crazy &#8220;anything can happen&#8221; battlefield survival. Which means that spear should probably be drilled not only against spear but against longsword, poleax, and what have you. Which would lead naturally to the kind of unified approach to movement that you are describing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fiore, 5 Feb. 2012 by Eric</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/02/fiore-5-feb-2012/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s cool. I look forward to doing some spear work in the evening classes as well. A valuable lesson to be had from switching among various types of weapons, is a concept that Rene Latosa calls transition. To what extent do the movements that work with one type of weapon (length, weight) work well with another type of weapon (different length, weight). In my opinion, given time and mental limitations, we are better off when we refine movements that work with all weapon types, rather than investing time refining things that only work with one type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s cool. I look forward to doing some spear work in the evening classes as well. A valuable lesson to be had from switching among various types of weapons, is a concept that Rene Latosa calls transition. To what extent do the movements that work with one type of weapon (length, weight) work well with another type of weapon (different length, weight). In my opinion, given time and mental limitations, we are better off when we refine movements that work with all weapon types, rather than investing time refining things that only work with one type.</p>
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		<title>Comment on BWAHAHAHA physical culture routine by BWAHAHAHA 24 Jan. 2012 &#124; Lonin</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/bwahahaha-physical-culture-routine/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>BWAHAHAHA 24 Jan. 2012 &#124; Lonin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in attendance. Pre-practiced some of the trickier moves in the physical culture routine, since the Figure 8 indian club move continues to baffle and confound a large portion of the [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Arsenal finished, now called Armoury by Eric</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/01/arsenal-finished-now-called-armoury/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 20:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am honored that my re-labeling of this amazing structure has been adopted as standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am honored that my re-labeling of this amazing structure has been adopted as standard.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arsenal progress by Eric</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/01/arsenal-progress/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The photo does not do justice to this project.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fiore 8 Jan. 2012 by Fiore 13-Jan 2012 &#124; Lonin</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/01/intermediate-fiore-8-jan-2012/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiore 13-Jan 2012 &#124; Lonin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and thus are vulnerable to a double-kill. The Sunday group had worked on this and we took their findings and moved [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fiore on 9-Jan 2012 by Fiore 13-Jan 2012 &#124; Lonin</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/01/fiore-on-9-jan-2012/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiore 13-Jan 2012 &#124; Lonin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] forward with the zogho largo sets, we reviewed the basic six variants and added the two thrust defenses (counter-thrust, and breaking the thrust) for a total of eight [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Fiore 8 Jan. 2012 by Eric</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2012/01/intermediate-fiore-8-jan-2012/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff. Thanks for posting.

S. and N. and I played with this for a while at class Wednesday night. I found that the first approach (shown in the second photo) suffers from a potential timing flaw: if your sword passes in front of the opponent&#039;s, you can end up striking him and then immediately being struck by him as he continues his momentum. The zwerch-like movement depicted in the third photo is interesting. My first instinct was to use a looping stroke of the blade from the reverso side, to perform a mandritto angle cut that would intercept his blade at the proper angle. This approach suffers from bad angle issues -- the blades can end up almost parallel and thus, it is not terribly safe. The zwerch-style movement, is, as S. pointed out, a more emphatic version of the mandritto-strike-from-reverso-guard, and as such achieves the proper blade interception. While effective, it also suffers from a) the complexity factor of having to lift it over your head and b) not seeming very Fiorian. 

My happy place was performing a wide sloping step with the right foot (right foot moves to the right) and striking a reverso fendente into the path of the blade. I got the line that I wanted, and had the option to strike directly to the opponent if I was fast enough. The position leads nicely into the cut-the-hands-and-stab followup from zogho largo, and also leads into all the stretto plays in which you have the inside line to the opponent&#039;s arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff. Thanks for posting.</p>
<p>S. and N. and I played with this for a while at class Wednesday night. I found that the first approach (shown in the second photo) suffers from a potential timing flaw: if your sword passes in front of the opponent&#8217;s, you can end up striking him and then immediately being struck by him as he continues his momentum. The zwerch-like movement depicted in the third photo is interesting. My first instinct was to use a looping stroke of the blade from the reverso side, to perform a mandritto angle cut that would intercept his blade at the proper angle. This approach suffers from bad angle issues &#8212; the blades can end up almost parallel and thus, it is not terribly safe. The zwerch-style movement, is, as S. pointed out, a more emphatic version of the mandritto-strike-from-reverso-guard, and as such achieves the proper blade interception. While effective, it also suffers from a) the complexity factor of having to lift it over your head and b) not seeming very Fiorian. </p>
<p>My happy place was performing a wide sloping step with the right foot (right foot moves to the right) and striking a reverso fendente into the path of the blade. I got the line that I wanted, and had the option to strike directly to the opponent if I was fast enough. The position leads nicely into the cut-the-hands-and-stab followup from zogho largo, and also leads into all the stretto plays in which you have the inside line to the opponent&#8217;s arms.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Longsword Beginners Workshop &#8211; 3-Dec 2011 by Eric</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2011/12/longsword-beginners-workshop-3-dec-2011/#comment-21</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 21:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet, thanks Alan. It was great meeting you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet, thanks Alan. It was great meeting you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Longsword Beginners Workshop &#8211; 3-Dec 2011 by Alan B</title>
		<link>http://lonin.org/2011/12/longsword-beginners-workshop-3-dec-2011/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2011 07:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great workshop, guys.  I enjoyed it immensely, and I&#039;ll be back.  I liked the emphasis on safety and technique while keeping in mind it is a practical martial art.  Also, I snuck a picture for my Facebook page, and have had a couple inquiries.  I&#039;ll guide them to this web site.</description>
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